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2010 Election Comments
Today we begin the process of taking our country back.
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Permalink Reply by Bryon Harrelson on -
As long as they fight for lower taxes on everybody and quit raping of our freedom.
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Permalink Reply by Bryon Harrelson on
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They need to get the Federal Government out of our education and let the States handle education in their own State,our k-12 education was better when we didn't have the Federal Government was not involved with it.
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Permalink Reply by Sandra Sue Reist on -
I agree, there is too much government running things in this country and not the people.
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Permalink Reply by Miles Shall Lapeyre on
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I've been reading a lot (which, btw, is how the 2 words are spelled. A lot = many allot -notice two Ls - means to dole out) of the posts here, and I don't see any specifics. What I do see is raving and ranting and fear mongering. You can't just make stuff up, repeat it often, and then magically it becomes true. You are entitled to your opinion, but not entitled to make up facts. (to paraphrase DPMoynihan)
If any of you who use the term were honest with yourselves you would recognize "take back the country" are code words for racist speaking. So why don't you just come right out and say you want to take the country back from a black man?
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Permalink Reply by Iron Tigers Vet on -
Oh cool...
It's been a long time since we have had a troll on here to argue with.
First off, it's not racial to disagree with someone's policies or politics. GET IT RIGHT!
Second, there are plenty of "minorities" that were backed by the Tea Party Patriots affiliations throughout the country that WHOOPED the Dem/liberal tailend. So where does that make us racists? Guess what, it doesn't.
Take your liberal, race-baiting tail outta here and go on back to the KosKids or HuffnPuff and play your little childish race games. They don't work here.
Try again...
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Permalink Reply by Mike Mott on -
Miles wants specifics. OK. Specific #1 -- Big Government leads to high unemployment and low growth. Thus, specifically Obama is either ignorant or lying about his agenda. Source for following graphic is http://workforall.net/EN_Tax_policy_for_growth_and_jobs.html.
Next, what is not sustainable is the growth of government. Unless we scale it back, which is what I mean by taking our country back, our nation will be turned into Greece. This is not a racist statement, but a conclusion drawn from the data. I'm certain Miles has data that refutes it; where is that data?
Now let's address that silly Keynsian Idea of Obama's, which was refuted by the work of Bastiat in 1850, but nevertheless remains in vogue among the lefties, probably because they like it when government spends money. You can't let a good crisis go to waste you know. In any case, Paul Krugman is a proponent of this idea and suggested that 9/11 was good for the economy as it was stimulative. Perhaps, but if his idea is correct then it would be very good for the economy if we were to blow up Chicago, Boston, New York, Seattle, LA, and San Francisco. Now that I think about it this would be a good idea. But I digress. The problem with this argument is that one has to destroy wealth and then recreate it. This is sometimes characterized as digging a h*** and then filling it back in repeatedly. This simply is busy work and doesn't create wealth. This is what Obama believes in and it is just plain nutty. Bastiat described what's wrong with this idea, and therefore all of Obama's economic agenda, with the parable of the broken window. This is sometimes called the Broken Window Fallacy. In any event, if this Keynsian idea works why is the economy still in the tank after we've spent nearly a trillion dollars on all sorts of nonsense?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG3AKoL0vEs is a link to an explanation of the fallacy.
So there you have it, a refutation of Obama's economic agenda as if that were needed given all the evidence we have that it is failing. By the government's own estimates unemployment is going to remain at this level for a couple of more years. By the government's own estimates his health care reform is bending the cost curve up. By the government's own estimates we have trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see.
OK, Miles, defend.
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Permalink Reply by Clint Manuel on -
Obviously, Miles, you are one that might benefit, not only from reading the founding documents (including the Declaration of the Cause and Necessity of Taking up Arms, the Virginia Declaration, the Articles of Confederation), but the REASONS for America's fight? The instances of monarchial abuse? The views of the colonists on mandates (and enforcement) imoposed by the king and his men. ORIGINAL INTENT! What do you know of Nature's Laws, the Laws of Man or First Principles?
Do you know or understand the three (3) main writings our Constitution was based upon? Or do you expect the government to supply that for you as well? THAT'S the crux of the problem now! We've gone from true Liberty to lead our own lives to expecting our 'benefactor' to hold our hand and carry us to decadence.
Learn to educate yourself, Miles, and stop relying on Big Brother to defend your cries victimization. Lead by example; be responsible so that the following generation won't be another notch lower on the totem pole.
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Permalink Reply by Clint Manuel on
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Concerning the legislature's authority, Thomas Jefferson asserted: "[G]iving [Congress] a distinct and independent power to do any act they please which may be good for the Union, would render all the preceding and subsequent enumerations of power completely useless. It would reduce the whole [Constitution] to a single phrase, that of instituting a Congress with power to do whatever would be for the good of the United States; and as sole judges of the good or evil, it would be also a power to do whatever evil they please. Certainly, no such universal power was meant to be given them. [The Constitution] was intended to lace them up straightly within the enumerated powers and those without which, as means, these powers could not be carried into effect."
Radical ideas, huh?
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Permalink Reply by Clint Manuel on
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On Obamacare, Stimulus & other gargantuan bureaucratic nightmares:
"It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what it will be to-morrow."
-- Federalist No. 62
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Permalink Reply by Mike Mott on
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Clint,
Thank you for this reminder of Federalist #62. The Founders were very clear on this point; laws were meant for the "common person" and therefore should be easy to read by them. We have a mountain of regulation on business telling them to be sure people can read the fine print. As usual with government that advice doesn't apply to them.
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Permalink Reply by Bob S USNR on -
Most of them say they never read the bills they pass. Our elected officials probably can't understand them either!!
And then they have the gall to tell US that "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse"!?!?
Oh, yea, unless it is their own ignorance of the law that is in question!!
Damn shame I think!
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Permalink Reply by Clint Manuel on
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The only reason to make laws "...so voluminous" are nefarious ones! And it's become SO routine in our nation's capital over the last century that it has become a major national concern of its own! All the repeated promises I've heard in my short 42 years to cut the pork is as hollow as the man and as shallow as his principles. These cretins are a pariah! - I'm tryin not to use words like stupid a$$holes ;-).
We've affectively voted out a goodly portion of the MOST corrupted ideals of the progressives and settled for a smattering of some good-ish, a few potential constructionist patriots and a fair share of politicians running under the (R) party headliner. We just need to keep FORCED pressure on their a$$es, and not let them forget there's a new contingent of educated patriots out there keeping a close watch and ready to fire them at the first sign of 'Compromise' of principles!
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