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HEALTHCARE PASSES - your thoughts
Democrats now own Healthcare. Democrats in the house passed the unpopular Healthcare bill 219-212.
Obama decided to wait until Tuesday to sign the bill into law.
Share your thoughts here...
Tags: Congress, House, Obama, Pelosi, healthcare
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Permalink Reply by EVELYN BLAKE on -
It's hard to believe CBS is doing this performance poll on the president. I about jumped out of my chair on this one.
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Rate the President for CBS News!
Here is your chance.
Everyone should get a shot at this. Takes all of fifteen seconds and that is if you take a look at his current stats.
Great!
First, it's hard to believe that CBS is actually doing this.
Second, that they're brave, and honest enough to actualy show the ongoing polling results.
Take the poll yourself and when you submit your grading of how he is handling the top issues, a second page will come up showing you the current results of how America is voting. Please note, this isn't Fox doing this. This is mostly people who watch CBS. That's telling.
DO THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and pass it on.
This is a CBS poll on Obama's first year performance....
Here's your chance to grade the President!
Please forward this to your Friends !!!!
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/19/politics/politicalhotsheet/...
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Permalink Reply by Jim Robinson on -
Thanks for the link! An overwhelming majority of people have graded Obama an "F" in all areas!
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Permalink Reply by Megan on -
Why can't people open their eyes? . . .The libs self-admit that NO ONE knows what exactly the health care bill consists of!.... Is this the voice of the people??
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Permalink Reply by EVELYN BLAKE on
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IT'S ALL IN THE SLAVE BILL...
Obama's Civilian Defense as powerful as the military
http://www.resistnet.com/group/watchdogforthehealthcarebill/forum/t...
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Permalink Reply by Robert E Lee on -
"The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock! Exalted be God my Savior! He is the God who avenges me, who subdues nations under me, who saves me from my enemies. You exalted me above my foes; from violent men you rescued me. Therefore I will praise you among the nations, O LORD; I will sing praises to your name."
Psalm 18:46-49
This temporary "political victory" claimed by the reprobate minds is only for a short while. Think about this - No matter if we live to 110 years old in this lifetime, it is very short in comparison to eternity spent in either of two destinations, and ultimately, our choice, heaven or hell.
A few million dollars or few years in political power is a cheap exchange for eternity spent in hell where there is no probation, relief nor buy-out. A fool hath said in his heart there is no God.
No matter the trials and tribulations, stay strong in your faith, as we are assured by Matthew 28:20, Surely I am with you always.
Bear in mind the suffering and humilitation that Jesus Christ endured at the hands of those who mocked him, spit on him, beat him, and ultimately crucified Him. Through it all He was, and continues to remain victorious.
Jesus Christ lives and He knows all the persecution that Christians have endured throughout the ages. Through His grace and mercy, we will survive all that the opposition forces upon us. They will continue to persecute us until His return and then there shall be no more suffering, no more fear, no more threatening, no more "bargaining," the victory has been already been won! "Every knee shall bow," not only that of the believer, the conservative, the atheist, the heathen, the liberal, those who mock and blaspheme His name today, those who entertain themselves by tagging us "bible thumpers," but also, the abortionists, thieves. No one will be exempt.
Friends, whenever our Lord returns, I will be happy to be in the group of "bible thumpers" rather than one of the most financially well off individuals on the face of this place we call earth. There is no wealth or no power other than the security of knowing that we are a member of God's Holy army which is led by the one who created us and loved us enough to provide His only son as pardon for our redemption and means of claiming His promise of eternal life through acceptance of Jesus Christ as Savior.
Do not let all these things going on discourage you. satan has already been defeated. God has brought us through all that led up to this situation and through Him, we still have clarity of mind and the ability to distinguish right from wrong. He has never let us down, thus there is no reason whatsoever that He will not bring us safely through to the other side.
Happy Easter. He is Alive!
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Permalink Reply by Clint Manuel on -
BOTH HOUSE AND SENATE HEALTH BILLS REQUIRE THE MICRO CHIPPING OF AMERICANS
Required RFID implanted chip
Sec. 2521, Pg. 1000 – The government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. What does a National Medical Device Registry mean?
National Medical Device Registry from H.R. 3200 [Healthcare Bill], pages 1001-1008:
(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that— ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; ‘‘(B)and is— ‘‘(i) a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.”
Then on page 1004 it describes what the term “data” means in paragraph 1,
section B:
‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to information respecting a device described in paragraph (1), including claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary”
What exactly is a class II device that is implantable? Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is an “implantable radio frequency transponder system for patient identification and health information.” The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as “claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary.”
See it for yourself:
{http://www.fda.gov/downloads/MedicalDevices/DeviceRegulationandGuid...}
This new law – when fully implemented – provides the framework for making the United States the first nation in the world to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country.
Don’t believe it? Look it up yourself. Healthcare Bill H.R. 3200: {http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/AAHCA09001xml.pdf} < Click
Pages 1001-1008 “National Medical Device Registry” section.
Page 1006 “to be enacted within 36 months upon passage”
Page 503 “… medical device surveillance”
Why would the government use the word “surveillance” when referring to citizens? The definition of “surveillance” is the monitoring of the behavior, activities, or other changing information, usually of people and often in a secret manner. The root of the word [French] means to “watch over.”
In theory, the intent to streamline health care and to eliminate fraud via “health chips” seems right. But, to have the world’s lone superpower (America, for now) mandate (page 1006) a device to be IMPLANTED is scary!
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Permalink Reply by Iron Tigers Vet on -
This is great information. Thanks!!
I have been telling people left and right for the last 15 years that this is among us and everyone thinks I'm insane. Well, I guess that theology and prophecy of the Bible is real... as if I didn't already know this.
There have been places along the east and west coast that people have walked into Wal-Mart stores put their items on the belt, when they were scanned in and given the cost, the person waved there hand across the scanner and paid for it. This is scary times ladies and gents.
And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image. - Rev. 16:2
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Permalink Reply by EVELYN BLAKE on
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ACCORDING TO PASTOR MURRAY, (HE HAS STUDY THE ORIGINAL HEBREW TEXT) THE MARK OF THE BEAST ON YOUR FOREHEAD, AND YOUR HEAD IS WHEN SATAN IS IN YOUR HEAD, AND YOU ARE DOING HIS WORKS WITH YOUR HANDS.
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Permalink Reply by Jim Robinson on
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Whether or not the Mark of the Beast is a physical mark (or microchip of some kind planted under the skin) or strictly metaphorical in nature remains to be seen (many good scholars disagree on this matter, and none of them know for sure with absolute certainty what the mark is). Either way, the end-times of Bible Prophecy is coming - and we are living in scary/exciting/perplexing/distressful times!
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Permalink Reply by Iron Tigers Vet on
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Revelation 13:15-17
15He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Many prophetic scholars also agree to this also Jim. So I guess we can agree to disagree which makes for great conversation. Either way, we ALL agree that this country is heading in to a giant brick wall and the immediate stop is complete destruction and chaos.
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Permalink Reply by Jim Robinson on
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On the contrary, my friend, I was not agreeing or disagreeing with Evelyn but merely pointing out that no one really knows for certain what the Mark of the Beast is.
I myself now believe (as apparently Evelyn does) that the mark may not be a literal mark (or chip implant) that humans will be able to see or touch, just as the Tribulation Saints will be marked for God but the rest of humanity will not be able to see their mark. However, whether it is a tattoo or a chip implant or an invisible mark that only God can see, it really doesn't matter at this point in time because nothing will stop Bible Prophecy from being fulfilled in its entirety!
As a Bible Teacher, I am well versed in Prophecy - and the many prophetic theories floating around the Internet. Most of the theories are quite inventive and imaginative, but few are based on a solid understanding of the entirety of the Holy Scriptures. When I teach Prophecy, I try to give people the "big picture" first so as not to lose them in the smaller details, but, unfortunately, this is not the right forum for an in-depth discussion on Bible Prophecy - shucks, partner! :(
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Permalink Reply by Iron Tigers Vet on
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I hear ya on that brother. We have already talked a little bit about this in GFC. I too understand the implications and of some of our so-called "teachers" in the media world.
I guess growing up southern baptist and actually reading the bible has given me my own perspective towards the ideology, theology and the prophecy.
"Big Picture" you say? I think it's more of that yet to come and most people aren't ready for the truth. can you say... denial?!
We know what's to come and how it ends... im ready my freind!
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