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Permalink Reply by CJ Wyandotte DPS on July 28, 2009 at 11:48pm

Your personal attack without justification is an indication of your lack of substantive rebuttal .

Jim Robinson said:

It looks to me like you have already had enough of Obama's kool-aid. Withdrawal symptoms must be tough.

CJ Wyandotte said:

If this is how we are going to take back our country, pass me the kool-aid!!

Permalink Reply by Jim Robinson on July 29, 2009 at 2:13pm

CJ, I made an honest rebuttal to your crack about drinking our kool-aid on this site. I was not attacking you but addressing your comment that was rude and inappropriate for civil discussion. No one has asked you to leave "common sense at the door," in fact do we encourage it with a civil and intelligent discussion of the issues - and that is what Conservatives have been trying to do on this forum. A lot of people have legitimate questions about Obama's sealed birth certificate and college records, so it is inappropriate for you to come on here and immediately slam everyone for merely trying to get to the truth of this matter - and the truth of it has not yet been cleared up in a responsible manner by Obama.

And for someone that only joined this site yesterday, it didn't take very long for you to slam an entire forum or to jump over me for daring to use a little sarcasm in offering a counter opinion to your kool-aid crack! If anything does it appear to me that it is you trying to create a little antagonism here and not me. We encourage honest rebuttals on this site, but we do not encourage slams and personal attacks to others that might disagree with your opinions. So I encourage you to be respectful to other people's opinions if you want us to be respectful with you. Fair enough?!

CJ Wyandotte said:

Your personal attack without justification is an indication of your lack of substantive rebuttal .
Jim Robinson said:

It looks to me like you have already had enough of Obama's kool-aid. Withdrawal symptoms must be tough.

CJ Wyandotte said:

If this is how we are going to take back our country, pass me the kool-aid!!

Permalink Reply by John on July 29, 2009 at 4:08pm

You raise another important point in the whole vetting process. What we have is virtually no finger pointing inside Washington and both parties hoping the issue disappears or doesn't cost them any votes. What I have learned is that there is no vetting process and the only objective is to win the election. It's remains ironic that Obama had McCain vetted and then politically came to his aid declaring that McCain was a natural born citizen! This script can only be fiction and for a movie.

CJ Wyandotte said:

Does anyone here seriously believe that Robert Mueller, head of the FBI, appointed by G.W Bush would not have done a thorough background investigation on a would-be President? Do you think the FBI or the U.S Attorney General couldn't have access to a sealed birth certificate?
If this is how we are going to take back our country, pass me the kool-aid!!

Permalink Reply by Jim Robinson on July 29, 2009 at 5:04pm

CJ, you come across as a hostile and angry person, so I don't know if trying to reason with you will work. I can only try, but I find it amazing that you continue to hurl insults and personal attacks against me simply because I used a little sarcasm about your comment, "pass me the kool-aid!"

I saw no one here calling you any names, as you wrongly charged, but I did see you mocking people here for addressing a legitimate concern about Obama's sealed records - and that is not civil or mature behavior. Your behavior comes across as rude, demeaning, argumentative, and intolerant to others here that disagree with your opinions. I hope I am wrong about you, but your incessant attacks against me reflect poorly on you and not me. I have not attacked or demeaned you - I merely addressed a sarcasm of yours with one of mine to make a point that your sarcasm was really unnecessary, IMHO.

I am willing to offer you a hand of friendship if you are willing to take it! Just please stop with the needless insults, sarcasms, and personal attacks - or just talk around me without talking directly to me if you choose to reject my offer. The choice is yours. I am not your enemy, and I certainly do not need your sarcastic prayers.

CJ Wyandotte said:

This was my comment about the kool-aid, "If this is how we are going to take back our country, pass me the kool-aid!!"

Permalink Reply by CJ Wyandotte DPS on July 29, 2009 at 6:35pm

Hostile and angry? Don't get a job reading people Jim, you'll starve to death.

I continue to hurl insults and personal attacks? Come on Jim, "simply because I used a little sarcasm about your comment?"

"I saw no one here calling you any names, as you wrongly charged" I challenge you to find where I said someone on here was calling me a name. A little less kool-aid Jim. (That was not an insult, just a little sarcasm)

"Your behavior comes across as rude, demeaning, argumentative, and intolerant to others here that disagree with your opinions." Geez Jim, are you plagiarizing my comments?

"I did see you mocking people here for addressing a legitimate concern about Obama's sealed records - and that is not civil or mature behavior."
Here is what I said Jim, "Do you think the FBI or the U.S Attorney General couldn't have access to a sealed birth certificate?" Ok, a show of hands, "who thinks I was mocking them with this comment?"

Jim said, "It looks to me like you have already had enough of Obama's kool-aid. Withdrawal symptoms must be tough. Ok, a show of hands, "who thinks Jim was mocking me with this comment?"

By the way Jim, our tit for tat is a result of the first comments I have made on this website and your response are the first comment I received. Oh yeah, welcome to TCU, CJ!! This gets me off on the right foot, thank you Mister Ambassador of Good Will!! Are you sure you're not a plant who's purpose is to run people off this website?

You said, "your incessant attacks against me" As they say in Missouri, show me and I'll own up to it. BTW, incessant means unceasing, a little exaggerated, don't you think?

You said, "Just please stop with the needless insults, sarcasms, and personal attacks" Jim if anywhere on here I have insulted you, it wasn't needless.

Let's go back to the top, you said, "It looks to me like you have already had enough of Obama's kool-aid. Withdrawal symptoms must be tough." Jim, you called that, "using a little sarcasm" and then you want me to stop with the sarcasm. Well, now I must be drinking the kool-aid because I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone.

Well anyway, sure Jim, if we can agree to talk around each other, not to each other, you'll not see another syllable out of me. I think we both have bigger fish to fry.

Sorry you took offense to the prayer Jim, it wasn't sarcasm.

Jim Robinson said:

CJ, you come across as a hostile and angry person, so I don't know if trying to reason with you will work. I can only try, but I find it amazing that you continue to hurl insults and personal attacks against me simply because I used a little sarcasm about your comment, "pass me the kool-aid!"
I saw no one here calling you any names, as you wrongly charged, but I did see you mocking people here for addressing a legitimate concern about Obama's sealed records - and that is not civil or mature behavior. Your behavior comes across as rude, demeaning, argumentative, and intolerant to others here that disagree with your opinions. I hope I am wrong about you, but your incessant attacks against me reflect poorly on you and not me. I have not attacked or demeaned you - I merely addressed a sarcasm of yours with one of mine to make a point that your sarcasm was really unnecessary, IMHO.
I am willing to offer you a hand of friendship if you are willing to take it! Just please stop with the needless insults, sarcasms, and personal attacks - or just talk around me without talking directly to me if you choose to reject my offer. The choice is yours. I am not your enemy, and I certainly do not need your sarcastic prayers.

CJ Wyandotte said:

This was my comment about the kool-aid, "If this is how we are going to take back our country, pass me the kool-aid!!"

Permalink Reply by Jim Robinson on July 29, 2009 at 7:14pm

Folks, I have tried to be civil and cordial with this CJ (but I am not going to waste my time going tit for tat with someone that has been hostile with me from Day 1) - and I certainly don't have to put up with her insults and personal attacks.

Oh well, CJ doesn't appreciate anyone's sarcasm but her own - but civility and maturity are still expected of everyone here, even this CJ. While we can try to clean up this site to cut down on open hostilities and personality conflicts like this, ultimately is it up to each of you to decide who you will, and will not, carry on a civil conversation with. But, if the language starts flying and the personal attacks start becoming vicious, you may be asked to tone it down or leave if you do not. And we do have Earl's permission to delete any truly vulgar posts and language -- so please keep it clean, even if you have to butt heads with someone, and just watch the personal attacks and insults. Thank you for your help and cooperation!

Permalink Reply by John on August 1, 2009 at 12:30pm

Lou Dobbs continues to be in front on this issue. On Friday from his radio show he called for a national debate on the topic. But the focus can not only be on the BC but the larger issue is whether Obama is eligible to be a US president? Dobbs does contend that Obama is a US citizen which I and many doubt can not be proven with Obama's refusal to present his documents.

Permalink Reply by Michael on August 2, 2009 at 1:52pm

Barack Hussein Obama posing as a natural born U.S. citizen will go down in history as the greatest fraud in history since the alleged inauguration of a female pope during the middle ages.

Permalink Reply by John on August 22, 2009 at 12:45pm

I noticed that CSPAN 3 History was broadcasting a program on James Madison and the Constitution. It was originally produced in 2008 with college professors experts on the subject.

I would like to see a similar program with these professors or other academic experts discussing the natural born citizen requirement so that the public especially a larger audience becomes better informed .

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