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Permalink Reply by Elizabeth Long on January 24, 2009 at 9:32pm

Mexico? Did they win? I'm not clear yet who won, but it certainly wasn't the USA.

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Permalink Reply by MMIKEYJ on January 25, 2009 at 9:45am

in my personal experiences, obama supporters have been the most ignorant of all supporters. they are ignorant of obama's positions, how he voted on issues, and on the actual issues themselves. This is where a little education goes a long way. When I was campaigning for Ron Paul, the easiest thing to do was to convert an Obama supporter into a NON-supporter of Obama.. However as the election drew nearer and nearer it became an issue of "anybody but Bush Jr."

I believe with Ronald Reagan that this left vs. right political mentality is phony.. it is a rouse.. There is only a vertical arguemnt, up vs. down... people vs. govt issue.

Obama supporters are like a herd of cattle, going where they think the grass is greener.. When they get there, they will likely find the grass is just as spotty and chewed up as it was where they were at.

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Permalink Reply by Elizabeth Long on January 25, 2009 at 10:06am

Exactly. We need to find ways to appeal to them, and we need to start working on it NOW so they are fully in place when we need them. We need to be ready with the arguments for what they're saying. Why on earth didn't McCain ask the simple question of how taxes can be decreased on people who are already not paying ANY? If we start asking the simple questions that burst some of their balloons, it's a start to getting through and getting this country back.

MMIKEYJ said:

in my personal experiences, obama supporters have been the most ignorant of all supporters. they are ignorant of obama's positions, how he voted on issues, and on the actual issues themselves. This is where a little education goes a long way. When I was campaigning for Ron Paul, the easiest thing to do was to convert an Obama supporter into a NON-supporter of Obama.. However as the election drew nearer and nearer it became an issue of "anybody but Bush Jr."

I believe with Ronald Reagan that this left vs. right political mentality is phony.. it is a rouse.. There is only a vertical arguemnt, up vs. down... people vs. govt issue.

Obama supporters are like a herd of cattle, going where they think the grass is greener.. When they get there, they will likely find the grass is just as spotty and chewed up as it was where they were at.

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Permalink Reply by MMIKEYJ on January 25, 2009 at 11:07am

I think the easiest way to appeal to EVERYBODY, is to educate them about sound money.

Right now, we dont have sound money. We have an unstable money system. Taxes are irrelevant primarily because the people get hit with an invisible tax - inflation. They know they have more dollars in their pocket, but they also know it gets harder and harder to make ends meet.. They know something is wrong, they just dont know what. Sound money appeals to everybody. Because its best for America. Whether your a Republican, Democrat, or a Communist. If you love America, you wont love the money system once you learn about whats going on.

Additionally, having sound money also solves a lot of other problems we are having like expensive healthcare, expensive college tuition, people on fixed incomes not being able to afford the necessities of life. It would lessen poverty, and as a result certain crimes would very likely decrease.

But most importantly it would also force the government to run a balanced budget, unless they directly taxed the people.. And if they did that, they would have to have a good reason, and then the whole notion of people being able to discern what they are taxed for and why they are taxed would be out in the open, in an honest political environment.

Elizabeth Long said:

Exactly. We need to find ways to appeal to them, and we need to start working on it NOW so they are fully in place when we need them. We need to be ready with the arguments for what they're saying. Why on earth didn't McCain ask the simple question of how taxes can be decreased on people who are already not paying ANY? If we start asking the simple questions that burst some of their balloons, it's a start to getting through and getting this country back.

MMIKEYJ said:

in my personal experiences, obama supporters have been the most ignorant of all supporters. they are ignorant of obama's positions, how he voted on issues, and on the actual issues themselves. This is where a little education goes a long way. When I was campaigning for Ron Paul, the easiest thing to do was to convert an Obama supporter into a NON-supporter of Obama.. However as the election drew nearer and nearer it became an issue of "anybody but Bush Jr."

I believe with Ronald Reagan that this left vs. right political mentality is phony.. it is a rouse.. There is only a vertical arguemnt, up vs. down... people vs. govt issue.

Obama supporters are like a herd of cattle, going where they think the grass is greener.. When they get there, they will likely find the grass is just as spotty and chewed up as it was where they were at.

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