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What do Republicans need to do to rebuild the party?
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Permalink Reply by David F on -
expose them
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Permalink Reply by Hans Wilhelm on -
We need some repubs with some courage to stand up to these tyrants in power.
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Permalink Reply by Hunter Hall on -
We need to get away from the liberal thinkers like John Mcain who try appease the left and confirm our conservative values.
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Permalink Reply by lisa mincey on -
by that comment alone you have shown yoursef to not be a conservative...only libtards say b rated actor...thanks for showing us your true colors
jon shriegl said:A lot. We need to actually be conservative again, the way we were before Reagan came along. We've racked up more debt than ever imaginable and are leaving the dems to clean it up... things really flip flopped. We also need to lead again rather than mislead. Reagan lied to us, took away freedom of press and taught much of the party to do the same in order to undercut the dems. Our original ideas were to uphold the constitution, uphold ethics (not sell weapons to unstable nations, or make deals with Iran to hold our citizens hostage until we're sworn in), and fiscal responsibility. We need to also realize that sometimes we will actually AGREE with dems and when we do that's okay. It seems like the party always goes against the dems even when they are following our principles. It's like they can turn us into democrats by being republican. And we need to get back to supporting all citizens rather than just the rich (clearly Reaganomics was a bad idea, why were we listening to a B-movie actor anyway), and supporting all business rather than just the large, and promoting competition rather than monopolies. Think of Lincoln, and look we're we are now, we've lost our way.
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Permalink Reply by Jim Robinson on -
One of the overriding issues seems to be that many people feel that the Republican Party has pretty much abandoned its Conservative base and roots. How do we bring Conservative reforms to a party that pretty much sees no need for such reforms? Are we expected to vote for another moderate like McCain and just cross our fingers and hope for Conservative reforms and change? Haven't Conservatives been down this road before with the Republican Party? I have to question whether voting for the lesser of two evils is truly wise or in America's best interests, and I question whether the Republican Party is truly our only last, great hope for stopping Obama (and I have been a card-carrying Republican my entire adult life). There are few Republican candidates (other than Ron Paul) that even strive to guide all of their actions and decisions by a strict and literal interpretation of the Constitution, and this gravely concerns me. I think there is too much at stake for us to trust a moderate Republican to restore our Constitutional freedoms and principles before we lose them entirely. I guess I'm just sick and tired of the statism and status quo in Washington between the "Republicrats." Where are the Conservative reforms in the RNC leadership?! I don't see them. Do any of you? The Republicans have abandoned us, and the Democrats have outright rejected us. So much for our vaunted 2-party system vanguarding our sacred freedoms and rights.
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Permalink Reply by Dennis Bando on
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They need to get back to their conservative roots....it's taken a lady like Sarah Palin to give up her office because that's what she'll start doing....a lady with class and sass who's gonna' start kickin a_ _ .
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Permalink Reply by Lisa Woods on -
We need to put pressure on the Republican Party. Here is a letter we sent Michael Steele back in June.
We did not receive a response.
~Lisa
Mr. Steele,
As you may be aware, I am one of the founders of a conservative grassroots organization. We have been out in the streets opposing the radical leftist agenda of the new administration, Congress and the mainstream media, while you have been talking about it. There are probably hundreds more like me. Let me make some observations, and a suggestion.
Some of your elected officials have been doing a great job, and they deserve your recognition. I'm sure they have it. Others have betrayed us, and they deserve recognition as well.
Note the message I am forwarding (see below), and the embedded comment, "Not one red cent". That is the attitude I am hearing over and over and over again in my interaction with the grassroots. I would guesstimate that within my own grassroots domain, $20,000 will not be coming to the GOP that would otherwise have been donated; and through my extended network I would guesstimate that the number is closer to $200,000. Like I say, there are many more like me, and the conservative base will not donate funds that may end up going to the re-election coffers of Republicans who vote with the left. The 8 turncoats who voted in favor of Cap and Trade have just cost the party millions of dollars in donations.
Here is what I think the party needs to do:
1. Take the position that any Republican that breaks ranks and votes with the left on "designated issues" will not receive any party financial support toward their re-election effort. I would include all party sources; RNC, NRCC, NRSC.
2. Empower your Minority Leaders with the authority to designate those key issues.
3. Communicate this position to all Republican Congressman and Representatives.
4. Grow a spine and make it stick.
5. I strongly recommend that the state parties do likewise, and that is why I have copied the state parties of the offending Congressmen.
If you do not take dramatic action such as the above, the ones who will end up being punished for the bad behavior of the 8, will be the other 168 who voted correctly on Cap and Trade. Moreover, inaction will result in a perpetuation of this bad behavior which will continue to diminish the party's credibility and thereby its ability to raise funds.
I am confident that John Boehner is fully capable of establishing and enforcing party discipline if backed up by the clout of the party. Aren't you?
Best regards,
Jim Woods
Ohio Friends And Neighbors
http://www.ohiofan.org
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Permalink Reply by Wiccanwolf on
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We need uncorruptable people in the party, we also need people who aren't afraid to mix it up and take it to the floor to rip apart bad legislation. We need people who believe that you and me are not dumber than a bag of hammers. We need hard nose conservatives who listen to the people, not ones who blow us off unless it is an election year.
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Permalink Reply by Chuck Bennett on -
Nothin has changed they have always been for small Govt. and they still are for small Govt. Even underf Pres. Bush they are and were for small Govt. while yes there was alot of Govt Spending But it was for a good cause to spread freedom and democracy t5hrought the World. The dem. on the other hand or thinking of themselves and not the big picture.
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Permalink Reply by Andy Goss on
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Osher, I agree with most of what you say but the Bible is also a "human" document as it was written by humans although it was under the inspiration of God and our Savior. I believe the Constitution is a document that was also inspired by our Creator. The Founding Fathers were the conduits to write it but that does not make it any less inspired. I also believe Christ gave us many more laws and guidelines after the Ten Commandments. But, yes, my God is the final authority in my life. As a conservative running for Congress in
Arizona CD8, I won't compromise my stance on the issues one iota. I hope you will visit www.GossforCongress.com and see if you agree with me on the issues. If you do, I hope you will donate to my campaign to stop not only Gabrielle Giffords, but B. Hussein Obama and his disastrous policies.
Osher Doctorow Ph.D. said:Jim, Ron Paul and the John Birch Society are a little better than most Republican Leaders, but not by much in my present opinion. Here are some reasons why not.
1. They don't tend to regard God as the ultimate Authority and the Bible as the ultimate Document, but rather the Constitution (a human document), which they do not explicitly and frequently and in detail derive from the Bible. So the 10 Commandments and Cardinal Virtues/Sins tend to be repeatedly violated and will tend to be repeatedly violated as long as they have Power.
2. They don't tend to regard Self-Defense as having as high a priority as Morality/Ethics, Individualism, Wisdom including Strategy, and as being second only to God in importance.
3. What they do tend to regard as having highest priorities are: (1) restricting Military Self-Defense to violation of USA borders, and (2) saving Money. These are not derived from the Bible even remotely. Saving Money rather than wasting it in Bailouts and Foreign Giveaways and foreign Troop Occupation and non-Defense-related Big Government is Moral/Ethical almost always, but to allow Iranian nukes to keep being developed is Criminal, and not turning the Islamist nations into NO-MAN'S LAND via Barry Goldwater's "Bomb Them Back to the Stone Ages" (Air and Naval Bombardment and Special Forces type operations) is also Criminal.
4. The "Strict Interpretation of the Constitution" is only part of what we need - it's something like saying that "We will Strictly Worship the Founding Fathers." We can strictly interpret what the Founding Fathers believed, but that has to be compared and judged and evaluated in terms of the Bible explicitly including the 10 Commandments and Cardinal Virtues/Sins and the Self-Defense ideas of the Bible, and NO HUMAN BEINGS SHOULD BE WORSHIPED. God alone is to be Worshiped.
5. "MY CAREER ONLY" and "MY FAMILY ONLY" are not derived from or even in accordance with the Bible. The number of "Conservative Underground" members who seem to believe that they are, from another Forum Post and intermittent posts, seems incredible to me. Those who believe that are part of the Problem, not the Solution.
Osher Doctorow
Jim Robinson said:One of the overriding issues seems to be that many people feel that the Republican Party has pretty much abandoned its Conservative base and roots. How do we bring Conservative reforms to a party that pretty much sees no need for such reforms? Are we expected to vote for another moderate like McCain and just cross our fingers and hope for Conservative reforms and change? Haven't Conservatives been down this road before with the Republican Party? I have to question whether voting for the lesser of two evils is truly wise or in America's best interests, and I question whether the Republican Party is truly our only last, great hope for stopping Obama (and I have been a card-carrying Republican my entire adult life). There are few Republican candidates (other than Ron Paul) that even strive to guide all of their actions and decisions by a strict and literal interpretation of the Constitution, and this gravely concerns me. I think there is too much at stake for us to trust a moderate Republican to restore our Constitutional freedoms and principles before we lose them entirely. I guess I'm just sick and tired of the statism and status quo in Washington between the "Republicrats." Where are the Conservative reforms in the RNC leadership?! I don't see them. Do any of you? The Republicans have abandoned us, and the Democrats have outright rejected us. So much for our vaunted 2-party system vanguarding our sacred freedoms and rights.
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Permalink Reply by Jim Robinson on
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Andy, if I lived in Arizona, you would certainly have my vote! Osher and I have some disagreements about Ron Paul, but we agree on a great many other things! Love ya, Osher!
Andy Goss said:Osher, I agree with most of what you say but the Bible is also a "human" document as it was written by humans although it was under the inspiration of God and our Savior. I believe the Constitution is a document that was also inspired by our Creator. The Founding Fathers were the conduits to write it but that does not make it any less inspired. I also believe Christ gave us many more laws and guidelines after the Ten Commandments. But, yes, my God is the final authority in my life. As a conservative running for Congress in
Arizona CD8, I won't compromise my stance on the issues one iota. I hope you will visit www.GossforCongress.com and see if you agree with me on the issues. If you do, I hope you will donate to my campaign to stop not only Gabrielle Giffords, but B. Hussein Obama and his disastrous policies.
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Permalink Reply by Collin Graves on -
Many of the Republicans in Congress don't truly characterize the once well-known description of a conservative. I believe the majority to be "watered-down" Democrats, if you will. The Republican party will make a future comeback, whether it be the election of 2012 or 2016. What we need is a true patriot with many years of successful decision making under his belt. One who will already have a plan formulated to get us out of this (now worsened by the Democrats) economic misery. On a side note, I suppose the candidate will have to be young, too, seeing as how Mr. McCain seemed to have every single one of the latter traits I mentioned. The liberal populous will always find a "devastating" flaw in a worthy conservative candidate, but their demise will be when we overcome that. God Bless all of you.
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