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Did Obama Say We Should Kill the Old Folks to Save Money?
Did Obama Say We Should Kill the Old Folks to Save Money Last Night?
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By Warner Todd Huston Thursday, June 25, 2009
I am wondering when the euthanasia folks are going to start touting this one? I mean, it sure seemed to me as if the most caring, most civil, most intelligent president evah just said that healthcare could be cheaper if we don’t give old folks and the infirm the full measure of care they now get. It appeared that Obama said we should just let them die or suffer because they aren’t worth the effort. Imagine if Bush had said something like this? The left wouldn’t have hesitated to call him any manner of names.
Obama said during the ABC Special on Wednesday night that a way to save healthcare costs is to abandon the sort of care that “evidence shows is not necessarily going to improve” the patient’s health. He went on to say that he had personal familiarity with such a situation when his grandmother broke her hip after she was diagnosed with terminal cancer.
Obama offered a question on the efficacy of further care for his grandmother saying, “and the question was, does she get hip replacement surgery, even though she was fragile enough they were not sure how long she would last?”
But who is it that will present the “evidence” that will “show” that further care is futile? Are we to believe that Obama expects individual doctors will make that decision in his bold new government controlled healthcare future? If he is trying to make that claim it is a flat out untruth and he knows it.
Does your homebuilder negotiate with your city hall over whether you get a building permit, or does the permit get levied no matter what? Does a cop decide if you really broke the law, or does he simply arrest you and let the courts hash it out? Does your tax preparer negotiate with the IRS or is he supposed to just calculate your tax bill on their terms and have you pay the required amount?
Government does not work by negotiation. Government does not work from the bottom up. It works from the top down. This singular fact means that no doctor will be deciding if you are too old or infirm to get medical care. It will be a medically untrained bureaucrat that sets a national rule that everyone will have to obey. There won’t be any room for your grandma to have a different outcome than anyone else’s.
Will our friends on the left now disown Obama the “murderer”?
So, what will it be then? Who will decide when medical care is just too expensive to bother with? Who will be left to perish because they just aren’t worth the lifesaving effort? Well, for sure it won’t be any members of Congress or anyone that works for the federal government because they won’t be expected to suffer under the nationally socialized plan. It also won’t be Obama’s buddies in the unions who are about to be similarly exempted from the national plan, at least if Senator Max Baucus has his way.
Ah, but we are told that Obama’s ideas on healthcare are “evolving,” dontcha know? During the recent campaign for president (that was only 7 months ago, if you’ll recall) Obama insisted that he would never tax your healthcare benefits from work. He even ridiculed McCain for proposing such a plan. Lately, however, he’s “evolved” toward saying that such a new tax is on the table. What about his stance against fining people and businesses that don’t join his UberPlan? He was against that sort of coerciveness before. Now he’s “evolved.”
Originally, he said it was “healthcare for all,” but as of Wednesday night, it seems he’s “evolved” to say that only those worth the bother should get healthcare. The rest should be left to died and/or suffer. If he does any more “evolving” we’ll all be finding just who is “worth” what as far as he and his Democrats are concerned. Somehow I’d guess that many of you reading this today won’t quite be worth as much as certain others!
Let’s hope none of us are ever in a position to find out if Obamacare deems our grandmothers worth saving.
And what ever happened to the left’s mantra that healthcare is a “right” and that money should never enter into a life or death decision? Now The One is saying it’s just too darn expensive to save the old and infirm? Will our friends on the left now disown Obama the “murderer”?
Warner Todd Huston Bio
Email Article
By Warner Todd Huston Thursday, June 25, 2009
I am wondering when the euthanasia folks are going to start touting this one? I mean, it sure seemed to me as if the most caring, most civil, most intelligent president evah just said that healthcare could be cheaper if we don’t give old folks and the infirm the full measure of care they now get. It appeared that Obama said we should just let them die or suffer because they aren’t worth the effort. Imagine if Bush had said something like this? The left wouldn’t have hesitated to call him any manner of names.
Obama said during the ABC Special on Wednesday night that a way to save healthcare costs is to abandon the sort of care that “evidence shows is not necessarily going to improve” the patient’s health. He went on to say that he had personal familiarity with such a situation when his grandmother broke her hip after she was diagnosed with terminal cancer.
Obama offered a question on the efficacy of further care for his grandmother saying, “and the question was, does she get hip replacement surgery, even though she was fragile enough they were not sure how long she would last?”
But who is it that will present the “evidence” that will “show” that further care is futile? Are we to believe that Obama expects individual doctors will make that decision in his bold new government controlled healthcare future? If he is trying to make that claim it is a flat out untruth and he knows it.
Does your homebuilder negotiate with your city hall over whether you get a building permit, or does the permit get levied no matter what? Does a cop decide if you really broke the law, or does he simply arrest you and let the courts hash it out? Does your tax preparer negotiate with the IRS or is he supposed to just calculate your tax bill on their terms and have you pay the required amount?
Government does not work by negotiation. Government does not work from the bottom up. It works from the top down. This singular fact means that no doctor will be deciding if you are too old or infirm to get medical care. It will be a medically untrained bureaucrat that sets a national rule that everyone will have to obey. There won’t be any room for your grandma to have a different outcome than anyone else’s.
Will our friends on the left now disown Obama the “murderer”?
So, what will it be then? Who will decide when medical care is just too expensive to bother with? Who will be left to perish because they just aren’t worth the lifesaving effort? Well, for sure it won’t be any members of Congress or anyone that works for the federal government because they won’t be expected to suffer under the nationally socialized plan. It also won’t be Obama’s buddies in the unions who are about to be similarly exempted from the national plan, at least if Senator Max Baucus has his way.
Ah, but we are told that Obama’s ideas on healthcare are “evolving,” dontcha know? During the recent campaign for president (that was only 7 months ago, if you’ll recall) Obama insisted that he would never tax your healthcare benefits from work. He even ridiculed McCain for proposing such a plan. Lately, however, he’s “evolved” toward saying that such a new tax is on the table. What about his stance against fining people and businesses that don’t join his UberPlan? He was against that sort of coerciveness before. Now he’s “evolved.”
Originally, he said it was “healthcare for all,” but as of Wednesday night, it seems he’s “evolved” to say that only those worth the bother should get healthcare. The rest should be left to died and/or suffer. If he does any more “evolving” we’ll all be finding just who is “worth” what as far as he and his Democrats are concerned. Somehow I’d guess that many of you reading this today won’t quite be worth as much as certain others!
Let’s hope none of us are ever in a position to find out if Obamacare deems our grandmothers worth saving.
And what ever happened to the left’s mantra that healthcare is a “right” and that money should never enter into a life or death decision? Now The One is saying it’s just too darn expensive to save the old and infirm? Will our friends on the left now disown Obama the “murderer”?
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Permalink Reply by Bryon Harrelson on -
They want euthanasia to be the law.
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Permalink Reply by Kathy Griffin on -
This issue, although scary as heck should not be that surprising. The "slippery slope" as it has been called with good reason, on life issues like allowing abortions has already desensitized much of society to the fact that if a life is not convenient, let it perish, (or help it perish which of course is what abortion does). This then in my opinion stems from that excuse only now we are dealing with people already on this earth and most often capable of speaking for themselves and will most likely creep to those living and not able to speak for themselves as well. Government decides the quality of life and the usefulness and decides who lives and dies. Government can't even handle what they are already in control of and yet they insist on taking on more. This administration in particular it seems, makes too many decisions for personal gain or glory, or pay backs (not just decisions in regard to health care). After 911, I cannot believe our country voted in someone such as this with his blurry background and opinions. He has a plan to which some aspects have already been acted upon and others like health care are trying to be crammed through and quickly. I have a feeling this new government is going to bring this country to it's knees unless people do something. It is not too late for those who voted for him either. Democrats can contact their officials too and voice their concern before it reaches the point where we get to stand by and helplessly watch our loved ones die, or watch our children have to take on that burden in regard to us.
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Permalink Reply by debra rae steinman on
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IF you want to know the facts about denying care to the elderly, please go to congress.gov and pull up HR 3200. It discriminates against those with special needs, those with pre existing conditions, the elderly etc........
I mean MANDETORY 'END of LIFE' counselling? ..............
FOrget about the talk show hosts, read the facts for your self. -
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Permalink Reply by laura on
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but even give them pain meds is a lie. pain meds are very restricted. i have had as strong as morphine for my neck pain, now i cannot have long acting oxycontin. which may work better than what i have. but i dont have cancer so i cant get it.
everything they say is a lie
the death of terri shaivo started a bad pattern with health care -
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Permalink Reply by Weeping Star on
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As a muslim,he has no respect of human life. Yes it says in the Health Plan that starting at fifty or older you will go every five years to see a doctor. And if your health goes down hill you will be told how to kill yourself. If you don't take this way out then you will be sent to a doctor and he will give you a shot to get you out of the governments hair. Just for money. I really think God is the only one to take me out not the government.
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My prayers are with you Laura.
laura said:but even give them pain meds is a lie. pain meds are very restricted. i have had as strong as morphine for my neck pain, now i cannot have long acting oxycontin. which may work better than what i have. but i dont have cancer so i cant get it.
everything they say is a lie
the death of terri shaivo started a bad pattern with health care -
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Permalink Reply by Kathy Griffin on
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Do you think this bill is trying to tell me something in more ways than one? I have not been having any computer problems yet this link you provide is not opening and if it finally does, it does not respond a freezes everthing up. So, is it coincidence that my computer is just having a problem with this particular page at random? Is it that people are finall waking up to Obama and his followers and are actually all on there reading the bill, or is it a government conspiracy to stop people from being able to read it? LOL (although the way things are lately, ya never know).
debra rae steinman said:IF you want to know the facts about denying care to the elderly, please go to congress.gov and pull up HR 3200. It discriminates against those with special needs, those with pre existing conditions, the elderly etc........
I mean MANDETORY 'END of LIFE' counselling? ..............
FOrget about the talk show hosts, read the facts for your self. -
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Permalink Reply by Lance M Hillier Sr on -
As of today, 8/4/09, AARP is formally endorsing Obamacare, per varied news sources... I have been trying to get my two-year renewal dues back since June (so far no go) BOTTOM LINE: Boycott AARP - It supports Euthanasia!
And if it passes after this August recess, we know what the Dems and traitor-Repubs really think of the American people they purport to represent! -
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