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Permalink Reply by Blade Runner on May 18, 2009 at 11:59am

Almighty God does not abide hypocracy:

From the Charter and Statutes of the University of Notre Dame

(f) The University's operations shall be conducted in such manner as to make full use of the
unique skills and dedication of the members of the Priests of Holy Cross, Indiana Province, Inc. Four
specific traditional areas, inter alia, are noted here:

1. The intellectual life of the University should at all times be enlivened and sustained by a devotion
to the twin disciplines of theology and philosophy. They are viewed as being central to the University's
existence and function. Here the role of the priest-professor can and should be a vital one.

2. It is important that members of the Holy Cross Community be active in as many academic roles
at the University as their talents and training permit. The very presence of priest-scholars can add
immeasurably to the total endeavor of the University and to its essential Catholicity.

3. Another central function of the priest in Notre Dame life is the pastoral apostolate within the
University community. In the post-Conciliar Church, this activity is even more imperative than ever
before if the full richness of Catholic life is to be imparted to the student body and faculty members.

4. The administration of the University should be a collaborative effort of the priest and the
layperson. In those areas of administration where a priest has special competence and experience, he
should be assigned commensurately important duties, to the end that his dedication to the total task of
the University may be effectively utilized and encouraged.

http://www.nd.edu/leadership/pdf/charter-statutes.pdf

Permalink Reply by Barbara Sowell on May 18, 2009 at 12:11pm

Excellent find. Unfortunately most so-called "Christian" and "Catholic" universities have subsumed to leftist and Marxist utopian ideals. See Christians Against Leftist Heresy.

Permalink Reply by Sandra Staats on May 18, 2009 at 2:14pm

Yes they should, or the Priest should resign.
Here is the email for ND President John Jenkins. Let him know how you feel. I am sure he will have a great Monday with his inbox stuffed and server down.

john.i.jenkins.1@nd.edu

Permalink Reply by Barbara Sowell on May 18, 2009 at 4:13pm

Great find! Will do!!!

Sandra Staats said:

Yes they should, or the Priest should resign.
Here is the email for ND President John Jenkins. Let him know how you feel. I am sure he will have a great Monday with his inbox stuffed and server down.

john.i.jenkins.1@nd.edu

Permalink Reply by Herb Kelley on May 19, 2009 at 5:23pm

Yes, they should lose Catholic status.
The real issue is money. Notre Dame is supposed to be a private, Catholic school.
While American Catholics cannot draw into a shell and hide from the social issues facing us, it is hyprocisy to honor a person of no moral values, regardless of what civil office he or she may hold, to address a student body of young minds that is 93% Christian.
How and why did Fr. Jenkins introduce Hussien with such adulation? Did he think that Barry would open the minds of students to the abortion issue?
No, Notre Dame is a private school, supposedly Catholic and endowed. So the action of allowing this buffoon and what he represents is sheer contridiction of what Catholics believe.
You will never see Brigham Young University lower their standards to such a level.
Hussien is a slap in the face to all Americans in all of his actions and religion has nothing to do with it. This was just another ploy to grease voters and for Notre Dame, get more money than they deserve....It made a mockery out of what Catholics believe....and I have sent an e mail to Jenkins also. Thank You

Permalink Reply by Barbara Sowell on May 21, 2009 at 9:41am

This is an important issue to keep alive for all Christians not just Catholics. The left has succeeded in taking over most universities, and most Mainline Protestant and Catholic seminaries. If any of you doubt what I'm writing, please go audit a few religion or seminary courses at a univeristy near you.

The most important thing we can do is to hold our churches accountable by uniting with other like-minded folks and becoming far more vocal. Additionally, we must not contribute to these universities nor allow our own children to attent these hot-beds of leftist indoctrination! Great football is no excuse! We will all one day be held accountable as to how we stood up to this travesty.

2 days left to vote. Notre Dame Catholic Status Poll. So far 78% say YES ND should lose Catholic status. http://bit.ly/TFeS2

Permalink Reply by Naomi Ruth Stout on May 29, 2009 at 8:30pm

As far as I am concerned, Notre Dame lost their "Catholic" status when they refused to uninvite Obama, well, befpre that , but officially for me. I am not a great intellectual but you don't invite somebody that opposes your Catholic views to speek to the future of Cathloisim.

I get so upset with this that I can't express myself intelligently, I can't even spell, and if I don't keep my mouth shut I find myself cursing.


So---YES they should and alredy have lost their standing and credibility.

Permalink Reply by Chaplain Thomas Gilbert Cole on June 1, 2009 at 9:35am

http://www.spiritonecc.org

News Letter Header w/ Pastor Mark
Abortionist Tiller Shot and Killed in Church
A Suspect has been Apprehended

vick tiller 2vick tiller



Ok, now that we Christians have slobbered all over ourselves "unequivocally, categorically, and expressly" condemning this act of murder, (as we should), but should hardly stop there), may we move on (as we will never, no matter how hard we try, win the opinions of the men of the world.)

The above signs where what was up the very day abortionist George Tiller was killed. He was paid a very good sum, for taking the lives of innocent humans, created in the very image of the Lord God himself.

As a pastor in Wichita, Kansas, for 18 years and as a citizen of Wichita for 46 years (born in Wichita), I can tell you that George Tiller had more opportunities for repentance than any other person I know. Most every day that his mill was open, a Christian/s were there imploring him to repent. To stop burning the babies at his own on sight, high intensity incinerator.

As I typically go to the mill on Wednesday afternoons, it was common for Tiller to drive out at the time we were there. As we would attempt to speak to him, he was always, and I do mean always, as brazen, impenitent, and prideful as one could imagine.

Jm. 4:6, God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.

In Church?

Did they say an abortionist was shot and killed...in "church?" Surely that is a misprint? And I don't mean how could someone be shot in church as that has happened numerous times in recent years, I mean, what was an abortionist doing in "church" any church...being allowed, welcomed, even venerated? This man kills babies for a living. He charges large sums of money to do it. Then goes to "church," makes large contributions and the "church" (Reformation Lutheran in Wichita, KS) accepts it??

In fact several years ago another pastor and myself (and some of our members) were going out to this "church" to witness on Sunday mornings to these members to please reconsider what they were doing in providing false spiritual sanctuary for someone who sheds innocent blood for a living. Again, Tiller has been a long term member of this "church." This pastor and I had a meeting at that "church" with the pastorette and their board members, us two and maybe 8 of them. The meeting lasted over an hour. They were as impenitent and unyielding as you could imagine. Not one ounce of concern for the child in the womb. It was personally one of the most disturbing meetings I have ever been a part of. This church is void of any moral or biblical standard. I can still recall one board member saying, "we have members who believe both ways." You see, to a person without biblical standards, what is right or wrong is solely up to the individual. Jdg. 17:6, "Every man did what was right in their own eyes."

George Tiller attended this church for around 30 years. Was even a board member at one time.

Do you think anyone in this "church" will dare ask the question, ... "Where is George Tiller now?"



Pastor Mark E. Holick

Spirit One Christian Center

Wichita, Kansas

Permalink Reply by Barbara Sowell on June 1, 2009 at 3:39pm

Thank you Pastor Mark for sharing your thoughts about the so-called "church" that Tiller belonged to. I think that it's ironic, no perhaps the correct word is "fitting," that he died in that "church" because his death in that church should finally bring to light for all true Christians the sordid depths to which so many "churches" have fallen. No denomination has been left untouched by the Marxist infiltration that has ruined most of Mainline Christianity. No denomination has escaped this heresy: Catholic, Mainline Protestant, and now it spreads to Evangelical churches as well.

I understand that his "church" lowered their flag in Tiller's honor today. Anyone care to venture a guess as to how many times that "church" lowered their flag for the many babies he killed?