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Palin in 2012
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Permalink Reply by Gilia R on
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I truly hope she will be the Republican nominee for 2012. She is the Democrats' worse nightmare and they know it.....that's why they continue to denigrate her in the media. She already has a huge support base among conservatives, which is a great start when planning for 2012. My biggest concern is that SHE needs to control the media - not the other way around. She needs to be out front highlighting her accomplishments and controlling the message. George Bush failed miserably in this regard and she could learn from his mistakes.
A perfect example of how Palin can take control right away: after Obama is in office 100 days she needs to go on O'Reilly and give her thoughts on how he's doing (even give him props if it's warranted). She needs to be planning this NOW! We saw in this last election how powerful the media is and if Palin can control it, she's s shoe-in. -
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Permalink Reply by mani on -
I think alot of it truly depends on what direction the GOP takes. If the move more towards the center then she will not be the nominee. If they however return to the basic conservative idea rather then trying to be like democrats, then its very possible that she can be right up there.
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Permalink Reply by Majic on -
She was a bad choice; a Rightest pushed moderate Republicans over the edge away from the MAC; I'm never coming back to vote for her in 2012 - and her innane attempts to keep the media spotlight on herself back in AK while she's doing nothing for the Nation is useless.
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Majic - without Palin on the ticket McCain would have gotten even FEWER votes. She is the only reason he got 48% of the votes. Actually, McCain was a bad choice as the Republican presidential nominee. Frankly, I'm not sure what you expect her to do for the nation right now....she is the governor of Alaska, after all.
Majic said:She was a bad choice; a Rightest pushed moderate Republicans over the edge away from the MAC; I'm never coming back to vote for her in 2012 - and her innane attempts to keep the media spotlight on herself back in AK while she's doing nothing for the Nation is useless. -
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Permalink Reply by mani on
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im with Gilia, mccain was the bad choice not palin. the republican party has moved so far towards the center that they basically sound like democrats (ie john mccain). this notion that we need guys like mccain in the party is rediculous. these are exactly the type of guys we dont need in our party. what we need are people who are unashaimed conservatives. Sarah palin was the only person who provieded a little hope of conservatism in the mccain palin ticket. if they removed palin mccain would have gotten beat so bad that it wouldnt have even been funny. as far as palin doing something for the country right now. umm what do ya want her to do? or what do you expect her to do?
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Permalink Reply by Timothy G. Cobb on -
Lets see, She is a Governor of one of the largest areas called a state. This may come as a surprise but that is a pretty tough job if it is done right. With a 80% plus approval rating, she must be doing something right. McCain, although a great man, has never been a true conservative, and was a weak choice. The only thing he really did right during his campaign was nominating Palin. The media is the ones chasing her trying to find anything they can to weaken her. Please make sure your facts are right. I will always challenge false comments.
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Permalink Reply by Majic on
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Gilia; I am a retired 25 year vet and former 32 year Republican; I would have voted for MAC if he had NOT chosen PALIN. Her governing credentials were/are far right, her politics far right, and her performance as elected Mayor and elected governor average at best according to conservative media. She had nothing to contribute to John's platform sands her gender, and absent her gender, nothing else. Would you want a VP potentially President to not only endorse but affirm out-of-wedlock pregnancy in her own family? What message does that send to a nation that has moved away from the nuclear and extended family - surely not towards it. I'm realist enough to understand how it is. PALIN advocated things in her campaign comments that I don't want to embrace as a national goals. Instead of inspiring Women of all ages to be like her, she showed them that personal parenting irresponsibility is acceptable in her own children, that we needed to correct critics not endorse proper parenting on public stage. Her scandal about the state tropper merely confirmed in my mind she lack moral conviction of her office, and the AK state record is repleat with additional examples of her decisions that fly in the face of mainstream America and other states' decisions for the public.
Finally, I could never envision serving under her as Commander-in-Chief; she lacks the discipline and conviction to send young men/women to their ultimate sacrifice in defense of our great Nation. If the only reason you can endorse her is her gender, there are many other republican, democrat and independant Ladies of moral and ethical basis that the Republican party can T-up in 2012. I for one will not return to vote republican then if she is the Republican party candidate. And the party needs learn to appeal to moderates if the party desires recaputure the votes lost in this election and over the last 8 years. Think about the reasons the outgoing administration had a ~25 % approval rating across the national populace - that's not just Dems... -
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Majic - thanks for your service! Because of you and your military counterparts we are able to actually have discussions like these. I admire John McCain deeply for the same reason - he sacrificed more for this country than most of us will ever realize. In my mind, there was no comparison between him and Obama. Notwithstanding Obama's socialist agenda, Obama will never be the patriot that McCain has been. I voted for McCain. That said, McCain was the worst candidate the Republicans could have put forward. In this time, a true change WAS needed and McCain did not represent change in any way. McCain with his long tenure in the Senate represented the status quo, and each time he and Obama shared the stage the differences in their ages (and in many peoples minds their thoughts and "coolness factor") was blatantly obvious. In retrospect, I think the Republicans during the primaries really thought Hillary would be the Dem nominee, and in that case the differences between the two candidates would not have been as stark. But when Obama beat Hillary, the game changed and McCain was way out of the race.
I understand how you feel about Palin, but I firmly believe that she brought voters in for McCain as opposed to turning McCain voters away. While you didn't vote because of her, McCain would have lost a much more decisive defeat if she had not been on the ticket. And it's for the very reason you mention above - Palin brought out the true conservatives who don't feel McCain fits that description. And frankly, if the Republican Party is to survive, it's the conservative agenda that they need to push....not the "Democrat Light" that has been so prevalent the past 8 years.
So I don't endorse her just because of her gender, but because of her ideals. I agree with you that it's not an ideal situation that her unmarried daughter became pregnant. But it also illustrated the strong pro-life stance she and her family have in not aborting the child. as for the so-called "Trooper-gate" scandal, she was cleared of allegations that she misused her power.
So we disagree that the party needs to appeal to moderates - I think the party needs to get back to its conservative roots. And as for the outgoing administration having a low approval rating, keep in mind that the approval rating of Congress has been even lower than that of President Bush for quite some time.
The big problem with the Republican Party right now is that most people can't tell the difference between it and the Democrat party....big spending and big government are rampant due to BOTH parties. The Republicans need to change this perception and show that they are the Party of smaller government, less spending, strong national defense and lower taxes. And from what I've seen of Sarah Palin, that has been her agenda since day one. -
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Permalink Reply by Al Noblin on -
Gilia, I certainly agree with your position much more than that stated by Majic. If he thinks parents can control all the actions of their children, he must not have raised any. Think he has overstated the other objections to Gov. Palin also. After McCain chose her, I predicted that she would be the first female President of the United States. I haven't changed my mind. Apparently the left is running scared of her also, as they continue to try to knock her down.
Gilia R said:Majic - thanks for your service! Because of you and your military counterparts we are able to actually have discussions like these. I admire John McCain deeply for the same reason - he sacrificed more for this country than most of us will ever realize. In my mind, there was no comparison between him and Obama. Notwithstanding Obama's socialist agenda, Obama will never be the patriot that McCain has been. I voted for McCain. That said, McCain was the worst candidate the Republicans could have put forward. In this time, a true change WAS needed and McCain did not represent change in any way. McCain with his long tenure in the Senate represented the status quo, and each time he and Obama shared the stage the differences in their ages (and in many peoples minds their thoughts and "coolness factor") was blatantly obvious. In retrospect, I think the Republicans during the primaries really thought Hillary would be the Dem nominee, and in that case the differences between the two candidates would not have been as stark. But when Obama beat Hillary, the game changed and McCain was way out of the race.
I understand how you feel about Palin, but I firmly believe that she brought voters in for McCain as opposed to turning McCain voters away. While you didn't vote because of her, McCain would have lost a much more decisive defeat if she had not been on the ticket. And it's for the very reason you mention above - Palin brought out the true conservatives who don't feel McCain fits that description. And frankly, if the Republican Party is to survive, it's the conservative agenda that they need to push....not the "Democrat Light" that has been so prevalent the past 8 years.
So I don't endorse her just because of her gender, but because of her ideals. I agree with you that it's not an ideal situation that her unmarried daughter became pregnant. But it also illustrated the strong pro-life stance she and her family have in not aborting the child. as for the so-called "Trooper-gate" scandal, she was cleared of allegations that she misused her power.
So we disagree that the party needs to appeal to moderates - I think the party needs to get back to its conservative roots. And as for the outgoing administration having a low approval rating, keep in mind that the approval rating of Congress has been even lower than that of President Bush for quite some time.
The big problem with the Republican Party right now is that most people can't tell the difference between it and the Democrat party....big spending and big government are rampant due to BOTH parties. The Republicans need to change this perception and show that they are the Party of smaller government, less spending, strong national defense and lower taxes. And from what I've seen of Sarah Palin, that has been her agenda since day one. -
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Permalink Reply by linda on
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Majic, first thanks for your service. Secondly, it appears I need to get you up to speed re McVain, before Palin. You need to stomach the FACT that McTraitor was a RINO, not a Republican. As this Election showed RINO's will NEVER win an Election. We were forced to choose between 2 Democrats!!
McTraitor TANKED the Election!!!
NO, he never wanted to win this Election -he really screwed us up and tried to screw up Sarah Palin in the process too.
Despite the fact that he was doing everything in his power to lose, he came amazingly close to winning ( due to Palin. )
The 2008 election was not a vote of confidence for Barack Obama. For the most part, it was a rejection of the person McCain and the policies he supported!!
McCain’s life history is a story of a aggressive troubled youth, followed by an
aggressive troubled adolescent, followed by an aggressive troubled stay at the Naval
Academy followed by an aggressive troubled history as a pilot, followed by an aggressive troubled marriage (infidelity and tossing his crippled first wife aside), followed by an
aggressive troubled career as a Republican U.S. Senator!!!
McCain’s forte in life is BLOWING things up. He was at his height when the task
as hand was actually to blow things up in the service of his country. Dropping bombs on the enemy is part of being an attack pilot with a plane loaded with bombs.
McCain followed his career path in the U.S. Senate by reaching across the aisle
to blow up the United States and the Republican Party with it. He is the co-author of the infamous McCain-Feingold Campaign Reform Act, which effectively limited free speech in federal political campaigns.
However, to top that, he became the co-sponsor of the McCain-Kennedy Amnesty
Bill, which would have effectively blown-up the United States with unlimited
immigration.
McCain was the only one left standing as the Republican nominee for President.
NOONE really voted for him. In fact there was a website VETS AGAINST McCain. If they pulled the lever for McCain, they were doing so because they may have hoped he would not serve out his term and Gov. Sarah Palin would become President. Alternatively, they pulled the lever because they so disliked
Barack Hussein Obama.
McCain NEVERRRRRRRRR experienced a day on this planet as a mature, responsible adult.
There is no reason to think that he could have been anything but an erratic, irresponsible dunderhead as President of the United States. His faults would have been magnified under the glare of the spotlight.
McVain wants the spotlight but not the responsibility that goes with being
President. He would rather be the center of attention on the Jay Leno show, than the
center of attention of a hostile press corps criticizing his every move.
Whatever Obama’s faults, he has a coherent plan of what he wanted to do, if elected
President. That plan was to move the United States as far to the progressive left as
possible. Nevertheless, Obama is no fool. He displayed none of the character weaknesses of other African-American politicians such as overt corruption or womanizing.
McMuddle never had any consistent plan of what he would do if he became
President because he never wanted to be President. It was the “John McCain Show” and nothing beyond that. Therefore, he did everything possible to repel is base of voters, repel possible swing voters and blow up his candidacy!!!
He went to Michigan and declared the virtues of free trade to out-of-work
autoworkers. They must have been thunder struck. Shock and awe. McCain could have said something compromising, like, “we should take a thorough look at our trade
programs to make sure they benefit American workers.”
He did NOOOOOOO such thing.
Then, he told Americans that he “heard” them about immigration and appointed
Reconquista Mexicans to his campaign staff. He ignored the issue throughout his
campaign. On that issue alone, he could have won the election. But oh no!
When Obama’s unsavory relations with virulent anti-American leftists and terrorist in Chicago
became news, McCain flat out REFUSED to say anything, refused to attack his democratic rival. Hey,McTraitor, whose side are you on, really?
When the Wall Street bailout was proposed, McCain called off the debate. Pretended
he was going to do something in Washington. (70% of the American people did not want
the bailout.) McCain had previously criticized Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac. He was in a
perfect position to be a champion of the American workers. He stepped out of the ring. He showed himself to nothing but a DRAMA QUEEN. His numbers really tanked after that, and even Palin could not save him.
After the election, the FIRST thing he did was pander to President-elect Obama. And go
on the David Letterman show to get back in the spotlight. Well, his usefulness to the
Democratic media is now over and McVain will seldom see his name gracing the
front page of the New York Times.
McTraitor can now retire to wherever disgraced RINOS retire.
He has the bearing of a senile assisted living patient. In the end, the last plane McPain will crash is his image and veracity. He should go now or better yet, he should be defeated in his state by a REAL republican. His aim has obviously been to"get even" with conservatives ever since GWB won the primaries. By his actions, seemingly his purpose has been to destroy the GOP as a Conservative institution.
When Hannity asked him about mistakes made in his campaign re not bringing up BO's terrorists ties in his show recently, McVain refused to admit it was a mistake.
When Hannity asked him if Palin could be President one day, he replied "Sure" and then went on to rattle about OTHER so called qualified Governors in his book.
What an UNgrateful worm he is!! Instead of slyly beating down Gov Palin, he should be kissing her feet for the rest of his life.
McPain is too stupid to realize that without Palin he would have lost ALLLLL 57 States.
But, don't worry, he will get his “Pay Backs” coming up in the next several months, as he “steps across the isle” in bipartisan friendship, to pass all of the Democrat's agenda. McPain will do his best to ram immigration reform through Congress. If he succeeds and senses that he has screwed all of us, that will satisfy him.
He is obviously still mad at Gov Palin for trying to make him win. He will eventually construct -and PUBLISH, just in time for the 2012 primaries - a complete theory on how she screwed him, wrecked his campaign, lost the election, etc. She was the best thing that happened to his campaign and HE was the one who blew it!! Yes, “Ol Juanito” is very angry (mostly jealous) that Sarah Palin energized the base, something he himself could NOT do - nobody came to see him, that's why he held Townhall meetings. However, when Sarah came on the scene,THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of Conservatives came out of the woodwork to see her.
And one other thing, don't repeat Libtards LIES here - we will catch you! Palin was CLEARED of any so called Troopergate that the Libs hoped to smear her with.
Helloooooo??!! Get this!! Sarah kept McCain from losing in the biggest landslide since the land bridge between Spain and Africa collapsed to create the Mediterranean Sea!!!
Majic said:Gilia; I am a retired 25 year vet and former 32 year Republican; I would have voted for MAC if he had NOT chosen PALIN. Her governing credentials were/are far right, her politics far right, and her performance as elected Mayor and elected governor average at best according to conservative media. She had nothing to contribute to John's platform sands her gender, and absent her gender, nothing else. Would you want a VP potentially President to not only endorse but affirm out-of-wedlock pregnancy in her own family? What message does that send to a nation that has moved away from the nuclear and extended family - surely not towards it. I'm realist enough to understand how it is. PALIN advocated things in her campaign comments that I don't want to embrace as a national goals. Instead of inspiring Women of all ages to be like her, she showed them that personal parenting irresponsibility is acceptable in her own children, that we needed to correct critics not endorse proper parenting on public stage. Her scandal about the state tropper merely confirmed in my mind she lack moral conviction of her office, and the AK state record is repleat with additional examples of her decisions that fly in the face of mainstream America and other states' decisions for the public.
Finally, I could never envision serving under her as Commander-in-Chief; she lacks the discipline and conviction to send young men/women to their ultimate sacrifice in defense of our great Nation. If the only reason you can endorse her is her gender, there are many other republican, democrat and independant Ladies of moral and ethical basis that the Republican party can T-up in 2012. I for one will not return to vote republican then if she is the Republican party candidate. And the party needs learn to appeal to moderates if the party desires recaputure the votes lost in this election and over the last 8 years. Think about the reasons the outgoing administration had a ~25 % approval rating across the national populace - that's not just Dems... -
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Permalink Reply by linda on
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PULZEEZE do NOT repeat Libtards garbage here about Gov Palin. There was NOOOOOOOOOOOO 'scandal" about Trooper. The Leftys made it up! They were desperate to find something on her and all that nonsense ended up with her completely CLEARED of so the so called 'scandal' Get it now?
The Lib media had NOTHING on her - so they went after her kids. The pigs! Repeat: Do NOT repeat Liberal garbage here.
This last Election showed the bankruptcy and rejection of RINO politics by the American people. And that NEVER again, would Republicans be seduced by the "moderates aka RINOS" who say if you go to far, you cannot win elections. In fact, you cannot win elections if you don't offer a clear alternative to the Democrats.
Appealing to "moderates" would be again ANOTHER disaster. Reagan NEVER appealed to moderates and he WON a blue State ( CA) over. Duh!!
Majic said:Gilia; Her scandal about the state tropper merely confirmed in my mind she lack moral conviction of her office, and the AK state record is repleat with additional examples of her decisions that fly in the face of mainstream America and other states' decisions for the public. -
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Permalink Reply by KugleScrub20 on -
I totally agree with linda. Enough with these Democrats disguised as Republicans. Even though I respect what McCain did for his country while in service, I lost all other respect for him. He blames Palin for his loss even though he ran one of the worst campaigns ever. He tried to appeal to moderates which never works. Proof being the 2006 and 2008 elections.
The time is up for these democrats that are disguised as Republicans. I don't want this party going anymore left. So we have to do all we can to get rid of McCain, Schwarzenegger, and these other RINO's out of our party.
I believe Sarah Palin is our Ronald Reagan. She cares less about what the media says about her and she just speaks the truth. She doesn't try to please everyone and be two-faced like most politicians. If Obama oh wait I'm sorry. I mean when Obama screws this country up, people will realize their mistake and Palin will be there to get us back on track. -
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